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	<title>Comments on: Hierarchy vs Wirearchy ? Or only complementarity ?</title>
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		<title>By: Bertrand DUPERRIN</title>
		<link>http://www.duperrin.com/english/2008/05/09/hierarchy-vs-wirearchy-or-only-complementarity/comment-page-1/#comment-44484</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertrand DUPERRIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 01:58:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John : Perhaps will find some time to talk about that at Webcom !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John : Perhaps will find some time to talk about that at Webcom !</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.duperrin.com/english/2008/05/09/hierarchy-vs-wirearchy-or-only-complementarity/comment-page-1/#comment-44477</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 May 2008 20:10:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes.  It&#039;s a &quot;both / and&quot; thing.  The Internet permits &lt;b&gt;both&lt;/b&gt; centralization &lt;b&gt;and&lt;/b&gt; decentralization, simultaneously.

A &quot;Service-Oriented Organization&quot; would be able to use that &quot;both / and&quot; aspect to its advantage, I am sure.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes.  It&#8217;s a &#8220;both / and&#8221; thing.  The Internet permits <b>both</b> centralization <b>and</b> decentralization, simultaneously.</p>
<p>A &#8220;Service-Oriented Organization&#8221; would be able to use that &#8220;both / and&#8221; aspect to its advantage, I am sure.</p>
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		<title>By: Bertrand DUPERRIN</title>
		<link>http://www.duperrin.com/english/2008/05/09/hierarchy-vs-wirearchy-or-only-complementarity/comment-page-1/#comment-44446</link>
		<dc:creator>Bertrand DUPERRIN</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 18:35:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@John : sorry, I didn&#039;t write what I meant...that&#039;s what happen when you write late at night, in a foreign language, being jetlagged.

You actually said &quot;don&#039;t have to remain static&quot;. As you explained in your comment you mean both vertical and horizontal what I think is relevant. 

But it seems that so many people think horizontal is the only solution that I wondered if when writing  &quot;dont have&quot; you meant &quot;both&quot; or &quot;horizontal only&quot;. I think that the all horizontal can be as harmful as the all vertical approach.

Whatever, I find your &quot;wirearchy&quot; concept very relevant, furthermore in a kind of organization I hope and pray for : the Service Oriented Organization which would be the organizational equivalent of SOA. I think I&#039;ll explore this idea further in the coming weeks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@John : sorry, I didn&#8217;t write what I meant&#8230;that&#8217;s what happen when you write late at night, in a foreign language, being jetlagged.</p>
<p>You actually said &#8220;don&#8217;t have to remain static&#8221;. As you explained in your comment you mean both vertical and horizontal what I think is relevant. </p>
<p>But it seems that so many people think horizontal is the only solution that I wondered if when writing  &#8220;dont have&#8221; you meant &#8220;both&#8221; or &#8220;horizontal only&#8221;. I think that the all horizontal can be as harmful as the all vertical approach.</p>
<p>Whatever, I find your &#8220;wirearchy&#8221; concept very relevant, furthermore in a kind of organization I hope and pray for : the Service Oriented Organization which would be the organizational equivalent of SOA. I think I&#8217;ll explore this idea further in the coming weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Husband</title>
		<link>http://www.duperrin.com/english/2008/05/09/hierarchy-vs-wirearchy-or-only-complementarity/comment-page-1/#comment-44441</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Husband</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 May 2008 15:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure I&#039;ve ever said hierarchies can&#039;t remain static .. of course they can, and sometimes do. I may have said &quot;hierarchies can&#039;t remain static&quot;, and I&#039;ll look for where I said it.  But I doubt it.

What I am more sure I have said is that the work organizations do, and the challenges to which they respond, do not remain static, and that it would be very useful for executives / managers everywhere to be able to understand AND choose when (and why) a centralized hierarchy and command-and-control are the most useful structure and dynamics, and when (and why) a decentralized network and &quot;champion-coordinate-negotiate-and-feedback&quot; are the most useful structure and dynamics.

The point of a hyperlinked digital infrastructure for organizations doing work is that both are possible, and simultaneously, and that some kinds of work are better carried out and managed in a hierarchy, and others in a network (wirearchy), but that it can be &quot;both / and&quot; .. and I believe that managers everywhere will eventually need to be able to identify, create, and (participate in managing effectively) both types of structures.  I say &quot;participate in managing effectively&quot; because I think that there&#039;s a lot of negotiation and &quot;self-management&quot; by working groups where the members are working in a network,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure I&#8217;ve ever said hierarchies can&#8217;t remain static .. of course they can, and sometimes do. I may have said &#8220;hierarchies can&#8217;t remain static&#8221;, and I&#8217;ll look for where I said it.  But I doubt it.</p>
<p>What I am more sure I have said is that the work organizations do, and the challenges to which they respond, do not remain static, and that it would be very useful for executives / managers everywhere to be able to understand AND choose when (and why) a centralized hierarchy and command-and-control are the most useful structure and dynamics, and when (and why) a decentralized network and &#8220;champion-coordinate-negotiate-and-feedback&#8221; are the most useful structure and dynamics.</p>
<p>The point of a hyperlinked digital infrastructure for organizations doing work is that both are possible, and simultaneously, and that some kinds of work are better carried out and managed in a hierarchy, and others in a network (wirearchy), but that it can be &#8220;both / and&#8221; .. and I believe that managers everywhere will eventually need to be able to identify, create, and (participate in managing effectively) both types of structures.  I say &#8220;participate in managing effectively&#8221; because I think that there&#8217;s a lot of negotiation and &#8220;self-management&#8221; by working groups where the members are working in a network,</p>
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